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upcoming changes in wotlk beta, according to a post by kalgan:

Changes that should be in the next beta push. Bear in mind that some of these may change somewhat or entirely, and there may also be other changes coming in subsequent pushes:

Orc
- Hardiness now reduces the duration of stun effects by 15%


Troll
- Racial Passive "The Voodoo Shuffle": Reduces the duration of all movement impairing effects by 15%. Trolls be flippin' out mon!

- Berserking: no longer has an activation cost of energy/rage/etc


Draenei
- Gift of the Naaru: now scales based on the higher of either the caster's Attack Power or Spell Power

- Shadow Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by Shadow spells by 2%


Dwarf
- Frost Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by Frost spells by 2%

- Racial Passive "Mace Specialization": Expertise with Maces and Two-Handed Maces increased by 5.


Undead
- Shadow Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by Shadow spells by 1% (yes, this is lower than the other resistance racials)

- Will of the Forsaken: removes any fear, sleep, or charm effect (no longer has a lasting immunity).


Night Elf
- Quickness: reduces the chance to be hit by melee or ranged attacks by 2%

- Nature Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by Nature spells by 3%


Tauren
- Endurance: now scales based on base health, to be tuned to approximately a 5% heath increase if the player were wearing green quality gear

- Nature Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by Nature spells by 2%


Gnome
- Escape Artist: the freeing effect can no longer be resisted

- Arcane Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by Arcane spells by 2%


Blood Elf
- Mana Tap: ability removed (partially integrated into Arcane Torrent)

- Arcane Torrent: restores 15 energy, 15 runic power, or 6% of mana to the Blood Elf (along with the current 2s silence effect)

- Magic Resistance: reduces the chance to be hit by spells by 2%


Human
- Perception: changed to a passive, now grants one character level of passive stealth detection

- Racial "The Fall of Humanity": Feign death which may trick enemies into ignoring you. Any threat is restored versus enemies still in combat upon cancellation of this effect. 5min cooldown

- Racial Passive "Human Supremacy": The dominance of Humanity is evidenced by having one more racial bonus than normal. Actually, make that two counting this one. (just a tooltip, no actual functionality)

- The Human Spirit: spirit bonus lowered to 5%

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HOLY SHIT is right.

Wtf Human feign death? That's pretty awesome.

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Re: HOLY SHIT they are finally doing something with Racials

Wow @ NE racial for...well...everything.

And /cry at nerfing endurance.

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The only thing that actually makes any difference is the perception nerf

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Arcane torrent and spell resist buff for blood elves is kinda nice. Still wish I had the NE Quickness though. Damn.

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Kalgan edited his post - Gift of the Naaru is now immune to spell pushback.

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Perception: Now useless.

What a nerf to humans.

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Blood Elves won't be able to mana tap pull anymore =[

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well gift of the naaru should be a little more worthwhile now, that's good.

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Fix Mace Specialization to Hammer Specialization (I know these are Maces but KEEP to the LORE Blizzard). And change itemization that GUNS are actually useful late game.

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Re: HOLY SHIT they are finally doing something with Racials

LiQuiDcHeEsE wrote:

well gift of the naaru should be a little more worthwhile now, that's good.


Gift of the naaru is still probably the worst activated racial.

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Blood Elves won't be able to mana tap pull anymore =[

Real paladins are prot anyway, so we have cheaper/stronger avenger's shield!

Though the Adapting type mobs will be really annoying when they go Holy Resist now. I used to always use mana tap so they'd go arcane resist =[

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compared to escape artist and will of the forsaken, at least for pvp, then yes, it's not so hot.

I'll have to see how much effect the change has before I make a decision about the change for pve.

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LiQuiDcHeEsE wrote:

compared to escape artist and will of the forsaken, at least for pvp, then yes, it's not so hot.

I'll have to see how much effect the change has before I make a decision about the change for pve.


The only way I ever see gift of the naaru not being something besides an "oh shit i have no mana and have to heal" is if they were to make it instant, and I don't really see that happening.  I'm gonna assume you play a shaman since there's no other reason to be a dreanei, how much does your lhw hit for compared to gift?

I guess it's kinda ok from a don't have to eat while leveling standpoint but even wisp form, which is pretty terrible, is probably better then gift for speedy leveling  =[

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LiQuiDcHeEsE wrote:

compared to escape artist and will of the forsaken, at least for pvp, then yes, it's not so hot.

I'll have to see how much effect the change has before I make a decision about the change for pve.


The only way I ever see gift of the naaru not being something besides an "oh shit i have no mana and have to heal" is if they were to make it instant, and I don't really see that happening.  I'm gonna assume you play a shaman since there's no other reason to be a dreanei, how much does your lhw hit for compared to gift?

I guess it's kinda ok from a don't have to eat while leveling standpoint but even wisp form, which is pretty terrible, is probably better then gift for speedy leveling  =[

Dreneai Priests were worthwhile when they had fear ward, plus their +hit rating to party members.  Since they nerfed Fear ward.... meh.

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I play a Draenei mage!

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Draenei is the coolest alliance race

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LiQuiDcHeEsE wrote:

compared to escape artist and will of the forsaken, at least for pvp, then yes, it's not so hot.

I'll have to see how much effect the change has before I make a decision about the change for pve.


The only way I ever see gift of the naaru not being something besides an "oh shit i have no mana and have to heal" is if they were to make it instant, and I don't really see that happening.  I'm gonna assume you play a shaman since there's no other reason to be a dreanei, how much does your lhw hit for compared to gift?

I guess it's kinda ok from a don't have to eat while leveling standpoint but even wisp form, which is pretty terrible, is probably better then gift for speedy leveling  =[

in it's current incarnation, GotN is utter crap.  It heals for somewhere just over 1k over 12 seconds on a 3 minute cooldown.  It takes the same amount of time as LHW, which heals instantly at end of cast time and for considerably more.

BTW, I'm enhance, remember? you already gave me shit about that in another thread (maybe that was Weaver).  so I don't get much bonus healing.

Considering the high mana cost of all shaman healing spells, Giving it a bonus based on AP and making it immune to knockback could be just the fix it needs to make it useful.  Not world-changing, no, but useful.  Again, time will tell for sure.


And yes, then there's our friends the warriors and mages (I do have a level 61 draenei mage as well).  Of all the mages I could have rolled, I'm glad as hell I rolled Draenei;  I can't imagine trying to level without any form of healing whatsoever.   Both my seventies are healing classes, a druid and a shaman-  I don't envy in the slightest any class that can't heal themselves, especially a squishy one like a mage.

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Syko wrote:
11111111111111 wrote:
LiQuiDcHeEsE wrote:

compared to escape artist and will of the forsaken, at least for pvp, then yes, it's not so hot.

I'll have to see how much effect the change has before I make a decision about the change for pve.


The only way I ever see gift of the naaru not being something besides an "oh shit i have no mana and have to heal" is if they were to make it instant, and I don't really see that happening.  I'm gonna assume you play a shaman since there's no other reason to be a dreanei, how much does your lhw hit for compared to gift?

I guess it's kinda ok from a don't have to eat while leveling standpoint but even wisp form, which is pretty terrible, is probably better then gift for speedy leveling  =[

Dreneai Priests were worthwhile when they had fear ward, plus their +hit rating to party members.  Since they nerfed Fear ward.... meh.


Symbol of hope is probably the best pve priest racial, forgot about that one, but it's pretty garbage for arena's outside of running a euro 5v5, but even then dwarf is still way better.

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Symbol of hope is probably the best pve priest racial, forgot about that one, but it's pretty garbage for arena's outside of running a euro 5v5, but even then dwarf is still way better.

Lol, i forgot about that too...  After I posted, I was wondering why I was defending the Dreneai priest because I knew dwarves had the same fear ward.  I havent played my alliance characters in so long.

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Humans get a racial pvp trinket now.

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WoTF is lame.

Remove it.

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WoTF is lame.

Remove it.

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