Protein shakes (Page 3 of 3)

All proteins have pros/cons.

I'm getting close to 3 times the amount of protein by grams with whey over the hemp per dollar.

Thanks for the thoroughly indepth description likwid (:

But you misunderstood me or I must have been vauge; I dont do casein at all, i didnt know of it until you mentioned it. Only whey. I take about 3x30grams of whey (80%protein) a day now, morning, before and after workout. And at same time period the days I dont workout (if I remember to).

This sounds all too awesome, totally aestethic, right? But awesome none the less, since yea - I do work out mainly to just look good. How to get these and whats the price of it?  In the past week or 2 I have had major progress with strength development contrary to before I worked out without eating whey. I gained about 4kg/9pounds - even though I feel like my tummy-fat has increased I dont really care and am overall happy with the result. But I adjusted my whey intake to see if I can eat less each day and still progress as steady in strength.

I believe in what you say as the muscle will rip itself apart if you dont let it rest for minimum 24 hours, roids will lower this time period to 14 hours or so, but your bone and other tissues still need 18-20h of rest. If I remember correctly from my college-biology I've been raised with the notice that muscle can never "turn into fat". And Ive heard the (kinda) opposite of what you said that the body will, in need of energy, eat off the muscle (apparently the body believes its better to not be able to throw stones but to keep out the cold). Again, Im no way sure this is true.

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Muscle won't turn into fat, but lipolysis is slow. Muscle degradation is mainly a concern for endurance athletes (marathon runners, cyclists, XC skiiers). While the majority of expenditure by muscles is carbs and fat, you do need to use some protein to support the reactions.

The energy use goes down in this order:  Glucose(simple sugars) > Glycogen > triglycerides (fat).

Simple sugars provide you with about 5-7 minutes of 90+% power.. Glycogen gives you about 1-1.5 hours of 80% power.  fat can give you hours and hours of power, but at like <50%. if you're down to only fat, you're pretty much useless in a race.

What happens in an endurance athlete is that at about the 1.5 hour point, if they haven't been drinking sports drink or gels the whole time, they are running in starvation mode as they are out of glycogen. This is known as 'hitting the wall' or 'bonking.' Considering you keep running, the body is required to keep finding a source of energy. So you start to break down whatever you can get at, and if it's not in the bloodstream it's coming from somewhere else in your body. This can't be done very quickly, which is why you slow down drastically. That's when a process known as ketosis starts.

Your body is thinking at this point that the reason you're running without food is that you are running for your life and will sacrifice your muscles for your 'safety'. Endurance drinks will include a small amount of protein in addition to carbs and electrolytes, because it'll hit your bloodstream a lot faster, and mitigate your body from attacking itself.

For weight lifters, you need some amount of protein to support muscle contraction during workout, but mostly it's for rebuilding muscle and constructing new fibers afterwards. So it's less important to have the protein during your workout as it is after the workout when your body is rebuilding (but you should have it anyway if you can remember to) Also, if you're ever at all hungry during a workout, eat immediately; and some of that should be protein. A powerbar, Clif Builder's Bar, protein shake, chocolate milk, sandwich, whatever you want. Have it ready in your locker or something in case you need it, then go back to your workout.

"Throw away logic and kick reason to the curb"

Crast, how long does DPS nutrition usually take to arrive at your house after ordering?

SW takes a bit of time and I need it asap. I just got off my break from going to the gym. First day was yesterday and I went as heavy as I used to go and I am feeling it now for my stupidity. But this is the soreness I would love to get during all my workouts but soon my body will be accustomed again to this exercise and rarely will I get this awesome feeling.

Cool. That seems better than SW. They take about a week. If you order on a Friday or on the weekend, it seems it takes so long due to the fact they don't do anything on weekends.

I order from DPS 5lbs of Elite and some other things.

I also checked on SW and they have Elite at $30 again but it seems DPS has better prices on just about all the things I buy so I am switching over. Thanks for the heads up.

Recieved my NOx product today "NO-Xplode" - I was trying to go for the "Horsepower" product which was a combination of CCE and NOx - unfortunately it's sold out everywhere for another 3 weeks.

I'm testing out the NOx as it says on the label - "assessing my tolerance" and so far it's making my ass Xplode as if I was on Thermapower.

Workout starts sunday - looking forward to it.

Last edited by Salle (2009-05-01 02:13)

People some to complain or at least leave a solid remark at the taste of a product. I really don't think it's such a big deal.

Yeah you're quite right. It's just that I sacrificed the luxury of taste looong time ago - and really dont care as long as it isn't downright unetable.

I'm with Cid on that taste is certainly something you can choose on, especially with the huge range of products out there.

The other thing is, since I am somewhat lactose intolerant, the better-formulated products I have found make me much less likely to be bloated and gassy all day.  And depending on if I have to be around people at all that day, some protein mixes are out.

So my criteria is something like

nutrition
lactose content
taste
price

I'd gladly pay more for a protein which doesn't make me toot all day

"Throw away logic and kick reason to the curb"