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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30MBljXxg3M
The soul hunter reminds me of the nencrons in dow. And those phase cannons are crazy. I wonder if you can warp them where ever you have a pylon or that other new unit. Because that would make expanding so much easier for the protoss. It looks like the tempest will be replacing the good old carrier.
Wow, those heavy destro--*ahem* I mean...those soul hunters look nasty. And, TELEPORTING photon cannons?! Very, very intriguing. It's also nice to see that Carriers got an upgrade. Heh..it seems that every old unit's getting turned into a new unit. Too bad the archon preview was just them being torn to shreds by Terran.
i don't like the constant beam out of the soul hunters =[
I dont know what the point of the soulhunters was. Looked nice otherwice.
I like the name "twilight archon", but they seemed sorta useless in the footage (could be bad footage). If you pay attention though you'll notice a Reaver just after the 2 Archons die.
Protoss will still be a hard race to play... Despite all these changes.
Originally posted by: Salle
I dont know what the point of the soulhunters was. Looked nice otherwice.I like the name "twilight archon", but they seemed sorta useless in the footage (could be bad footage). If you pay attention though you'll notice a Reaver just after the 2 Archons die.
and a psyonic storm on the front. funny how the video has so little view count. Awesome find!
the tileset reminds me of Nagrand
Originally posted by: pneoxian
the tileset reminds me of Nagrand
I thought the same 
I find this video a major disappointment. The Protoss of SC2 appear to have nothing in common with those of SC1. The visual style is completely different, and the names of the units, which pretty much adds up to a race that feels completely different.
How can you make a good sequel when you practically scrap an entire race?
Originally posted by: Sir~Magis~Returns
I find this video a major disappointment. The Protoss of SC2 appear to have nothing in common with those of SC1. The visual style is completely different, and the names of the units, which pretty much adds up to a race that feels completely different.
How can you make a good sequel when you practically scrap an entire race?
See, I can barely see a difference between them. The style of the game still looks like 3D Starcraft to me, and the Protoss units all look petty much the same too. Either you're being sarcastic, or a lot more pedantic on the details here then I am.
Mmm, those soul hunters look like they break the first rule of Ghostbusting: Whatever you do, don't cross the streams.
The style looks identical to me, with the exception that they are now using silver as well as gold...
God dammit, WC3 should never have introduced low unit caps and heroes. How can it be a sequel if you change game mechanics on such a fundamental level. Hell,they even scrapped an entire resource.
Originally posted by: Viserys
The style looks identical to me, with the exception that they are now using silver as well as gold...
I, too, am very disappointed with the fact that Protoss seems to have left the colour "gold" off their units. Simple detail, which, to me is such a large feature and trademark of the Protoss.
As of now I am hoping that the Protoss player was simply "player blue", seeing how there was small more "neon blue" parts on the Tempest ship. And add to that: the Terrans were very red.
This gives me hope that the demo was simply shown by a "blue" protoss player.
God dammit, WC3 should never have introduced low unit caps and heroes. How can it be a sequel if you change game mechanics on such a fundamental level. Hell,they even scrapped an entire resource.
I do not know what you mean by this. Seems like you have your facts wrong. According to the official Demo a player had a minimum of x/151 units (I presume they have 200 unit cap - as in the old SC). And the Demo also shows Minerals and Vespene Gas (Well.. we do not know that it is "Vespene", but does it matter?).
I guess that you haven't seen that video But you can also tell a Gas Extractor in the first few seconds of the attack on the Terran Expansion on this video.
and a psyonic storm on the front. funny how the video has so little view count. Awesome find!
I believe that they are Tempest "Interceptors" (presuming they're using their old name still - which I doubt) with their Plasmashields triggering over the Marine/Reaper assualt - making it look like a Psionic Storm with their airel movement. I could not find anything that would look like a real psionic storm nor Templars (We were told that Templars would still be a part of the Protoss, so I do dare presume that they're still using that name).
@SirMagis:
You're being a tad dramatic IMO. They did not BARELY scrap an entire race. We still have "Dragoons", we still got Zealots ( a personal Hooray! @ that one \o/ ), something that resembles Carriers and Archons. Plus more expensive units and the awesome Plasmashield trademark. (Yeah I dare say that they are more expensive since Zealots are - according to the website - Tier 1, and they still rape Marines and Zerglings a like).
Gateways. Pylons. "Phase" Cannons. Yeah a lot of the old SC. I've mentioned about everything we've seen so far.
If you expected that Blizzard would wait 10 years with adding a sequal with just a 3D engine then I dare say you are pretty moronic.
It's a sequal, we have new lore, new units - that so far are according to the lore (let's hope it stay that way !) and modifications to old units that are also explained through lore. This is as I would've expected from a decent sequal!
Oh.. and we obviously got awesome new CGI cinematics - so stafu!
Protoss will still be a hard race to play... Despite all these changes.
Aye, Protoss was a hard micro-depending race. But with the upcoming changes (more units with more abilities - in which we've only seen a few of the other races) it would seem that Blizzard is aiming for giving that option to all of the races. Zerglings can now mutate into what the scenario requires (what happens if you only mutate 1?) : complete success or complete demolition. Zerg units are still at your disposal with complete abandon. Their trademark.
Got a bit off-topic there, was mostly directed at SirMagis (Zerg still having their trademark).
My point is. The Protoss still seems like a hard race to play but I believe (and what we've seen so far hasn't discouraged my beliefs) that the other races will be increasingly hard to play with much more micro than we are used to. Although in the end I am also convinced its still unit spam vs unit spam. Micro could count, but I'm willingly to bet that the more gateways and expansions you have - you will win, however (this will be new in SC2) ignoring the units of your opponent (despite having the more gateways etc) could loes you a game (one example could be Stalkers blinking past a battlefield and taking down an expansion unnoticed).
If you have any knowledge that I dont - please share it 
As a finish I'd like to ask: does anyone know how the hell to control Phase Cannons? In the video it seemed like he "phased" all of the cannons at once and very immediately gave them individual instructions to materialize. I really love this new feature, but I hope that this was a triggered event, cause it looked like the work of a micro-artist!
and.
What the fuck is the point of a soulhunter? By the name - and the looks from the video - I'd like to believe it's stronger vs organic units (killing the soul instead of armor and flesh). So does it deal more damage to marines etc? Does it heal/recharge shield from attacking organic units? Does "Zerg" count as souls? They looked too effective against structures (despite their numbers still) to also be that effective against land units. If they own structures like that, they will also own mechanical units (presumption - wellfounded imo), so they own mechanical and could heal off organic (or otherwice just own). An all-owning land unit? Undo Soulhunters please. I'm expecting a big surprise from Blizzard soon ;P (through an update of their site!!)
Originally posted by: Tage
Mmm, those soul hunters look like they break the first rule of Ghostbusting: Whatever you do, don't cross the beams.
on another note: blizz said they waited a while to bring out SC2 so that they could run a larger unit size in 3D (basically saying you dont have the war3 unit cap)
Salle, you are getting so far ahead of yourself it's pretty hilarious.
Originally posted by: darin
Salle, you are getting so far ahead of yourself it's pretty hilarious.
i r having teh fun!
its not like im not aware of its still alpha im just having fun theorycrafting. somebody's gotta do it.
:edit:
anyway I'll play along. Where, besides the obvious ramble about Soulhunters, am I getting ahead of myself? Just because Im a starcraft enthusiast (obviously) I dont really think im being "funny" in any such way as "hilarious"?
Originally posted by: Salle
I believe that they are Tempest "Interceptors" (presuming they're using their old name still - which I doubt) with their Plasmashields triggering over the Marine/Reaper assualt - making it look like a Psionic Storm with their airel movement. I could not find anything that would look like a real psionic storm nor Templars (We were told that Templars would still be a part of the Protoss, so I do dare presume that they're still using that name).
Definitely not triggered shields of interceptors. I was looking at the bottom right at the start of the last clip. Pretty sure its psionic storm... you don't see the same animation in the tempest clip and in any other time of the last clip. The electrical jolts over the area is very distinct....
Originally posted by: UrQuan
Originally posted by: Salle
I believe that they are Tempest "Interceptors" (presuming they're using their old name still - which I doubt) with their Plasmashields triggering over the Marine/Reaper assualt - making it look like a Psionic Storm with their airel movement. I could not find anything that would look like a real psionic storm nor Templars (We were told that Templars would still be a part of the Protoss, so I do dare presume that they're still using that name).
Definitely not triggered shields of interceptors. I was looking at the bottom right at the start of the last clip. Pretty sure its psionic storm... you don't see the same animation in the tempest clip and in any other time of the last clip. The electrical jolts over the area is very distinct....
I had to re-watch that clip 6 times to see what you were talking about... and yep, looks like a psionic storm to me!
I think that you are right. only its horrible placed ;P Hits more zealots than (if any) marines.
Also theres a figure beneath the most behind / left Tempest that could look like a Templar.
Grats Salle, I was making fun of Magis being a drama queen (WC3 dropping a resource, oil, and lowering the unit cap). Nowhere did I say SC2.
Stop NOT talking about SC in a SC thread 
The little things are impressing me... Like the shadows for example. Compared to wc3, which just uses bigger and smaller variations of ovals/circles to represent shadows, Sc2, uses actual shadows that actually mirror their owner. If twilight archon is anything like the real archon... it'll look cool, but blow... which the video is already suggesting.
There seem to be ALOT of new units in addition to the preserved units... I was under the understanding that the unit count for each race was going to stay the same.
Also I agree... Soul Hunter does not belong there. It looks nasty, kind of like a vulture w/ a statue on top of it shooting out a lasers.
If you look at the part of the video that shows the Archon. Those two archons are out numbered by a million marines. So I think any unit would go down fast when a whole army of marines are ff on one unit. It was a bad example by blizzards part to demonstrate the power of the archons.
Originally posted by: jordan
If you look at the part of the video that shows the Archon. Those two archons are out numbered by a million marines. So I think any unit would go down fast when a whole army of marines are ff on one unit. It was a bad example by blizzards part to demonstrate the power of the archons.
It's a perfect example of how archons have the power to waste your precious monies.
Originally posted by: Viserys
Grats Salle, I was making fun of Magis being a drama queen (WC3 dropping a resource, oil, and lowering the unit cap). Nowhere did I say SC2.
Too bad I happen to agree... while I think WC3 is a good game, anyone who expected it to be similar to WC2 must have been extremely disappointed.
Originally posted by: Sir~Magis~Returns
Originally posted by: Viserys
Grats Salle, I was making fun of Magis being a drama queen (WC3 dropping a resource, oil, and lowering the unit cap). Nowhere did I say SC2.
Too bad I happen to agree... while I think WC3 is a good game, anyone who expected it to be similar to WC2 must have been extremely disappointed.
With a sequel, things need to be mixed up a bit. SC2 takes place what, 20 years after SC? Think about just how in our world how much shit has changed in 20 years. If things were the same it'd be pretty boring.
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