Topic: Is it me? Or do both of these candidates suck?
I'm 100% certain for this election I will not be voting for either of these candidates.
I look at Obama and McCain and they have both done 180s on positions that have made them so attractive in the past.
During the primaries I was trying to decide on the dem side who I liked. Kuccinich was hitting the nail on the head when it came to forien policy and peace, but was off when it pertained to economics. Obama had a lot to say about the failed policy in iraq and he showed signs that he would go against the Washington consensus pertaining to the middle east.
As for the neo cons, I liked McCain because he has supported campaign finance reform and he was vehemently against torture, but then his views on Iraq and the middle east are ass backwards. Also lets not forget Ron Paul his foreign policy views are on point, he believes in civil liberties, and he understands that we cant kill our way out of problems. I do agree with some of his economic policies, but I knew that he would never be able to turn this country into a complete libertarian economic model. But I believed that we need a true conservative who isnt just an economic conservative when it comes to cutting social spending, but he also would push for cutting military spending which is a complete waste of money.
Sadly, Kuc dog and Ronny didn't stand a chance because they aren't in league with the lobbyists.
Now looking at Obama I dont even know what the fuck he stands for. He isnt even questions the whole war on terrorism instead he thinks that we should deploy MORE troops into afghanistan. Even though he doesnt understand that great empires have gone into that country and have failed horribly (Brits, Russians, and soon U.S.) Obama is pushing for expanded healthcare even though medicare and medicaid will be running record breaking short falls in the next decade. SS isn't a problem right now, but politicians realize that they can attack that sheep instead of confronting the 100 pound guerilla/lobbyist in the room that is medicare and medicaid. Obama also believes that we can still maintain this war in afghanistan, launch new healthcare spending at the cost of 350 billion, end a recession with government bail outs, green the country, and all of this can be accomplished by raising taxes? Ugg. Also this idiot supports the patriot act and domestic spying.
God if i hear another person come up to me and tell me "You should vote for him because he's black and you're black." My head will fucken explode! Look Pelosi and to a degree Hillary played the fem card (Even though she really turned up the Fem heat when she knew obama had her on the run) to win an election. All of the liberals in De Anza and also the women studies professors were eating up the pelosi story. Oh wow a female speaker of the house this will definitely change things for women and finally fem issues will be on the table. Well pelosi got elected and I havent seen one fucking fem issue on the table yet.
Looking at Obama, I see the same thing happen. People are voting for the story instead of the policies. This man is washington incarnate and will not bring any change to the system. How can you bring change when you're part of the two party system? Change is bad for the two party system and it's laughable when we believe that anyone from that system will break the very system that has made their career possible.
Back to McCain. First of all his foreign policy views are crazy. His FP advisor is Randy Scheunemann, you know the guy who was the president of "The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq." The committee that pushed pro invasion proganda to the US public. He was also the lead director for "Project for a New American Century" you know the group that wanted to invade Iraq, Iran, and Syria and begin an imperial dream of complete domination of the people in the middle east. Anyways, McCain wants us to stay in Iraq indefinitely, sometime around 2014. We might as well make it an 11 year war. Lets throw another couple trillion dollars down the drain. He believes that the surge is working even though it's the cease fire between Muqtada al Sadr, bribes to sunni militias, and ethnic cleansing of every major city in Iraq that has lead to the calm before the storm. Also this man jokes about bombing Iran. And I don't care how stupid you are or even if you're trying to have fun. You never joke about brining about ww3 and the complete destruction of the economic system. McCain also reneged on his stance on torture. He believes that some how torcher will make this country safer. Also he believes your civil liberties are not important. He wants to make the bush tax cuts permanent, cut corporate taxes, increase spending on the war on terror, and some how reduce the deficit? Wtf? That seems like a good plan balloon our national debt to 120% of GDP.
Anyways, none of these candidates have mentioned repealing the patriot act or the military commission act. So basically this country is slowly becoming fascist.
Anyways, what do you guys think about these candidates?
Last edited by jordan (2008-09-08 02:16)
